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	<title>Comments on: Sleepless in Seattle? Then count your blessings…</title>
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	<description>Positive Psychology News Daily - Daily boost of research-based happiness.  Authored by University of Pennsylvania graduates of the Master of Applied Positive Psychology program (MAPP).</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Samantha</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13882</link>
		<dc:creator>Samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam from Seattle here.  I was suffering from depression and as it got worse, my ability to sleep grew worse. At one point I had not slept in 2 weeks and my body began to break down. At the time, I asked for help online to find a reputable therapist and was referred to a resource that will benefit those of you in dire straits. Goodtherapy.org.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam from Seattle here.  I was suffering from depression and as it got worse, my ability to sleep grew worse. At one point I had not slept in 2 weeks and my body began to break down. At the time, I asked for help online to find a reputable therapist and was referred to a resource that will benefit those of you in dire straits. Goodtherapy.org.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Grenville-Cleave</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13210</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Grenville-Cleave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kathryn
Thanks for your comments. I suppose I wasn't thinking so much of positive interventions having negative side-effects, though that's an interesting thought. I was actually thinking of the possible risk of leaping in with a positive intervention when a clinical/medical intervention was more appropriate. Frisch for one is very clear on the dividing line between clinical/non-clinical work. 

Luckily I don't suffer from insomnia, but if I did, I think I'd try non-medical interventions first!

On a related  note, I've noticed several researchers writing about well-being (since the arrival of Pos Psych) talk about a decrease in depression/anxiety/other negative symptoms as if this were the same thing as an increase in well-being. This suggests that for the layperson, the distinction is actually not that important, even if it is everything to Positive Psychologists....Your thoughts?

I also think Acceptance &#38; Commitment Therapy has a lot to offer on the subject of insomnia.


Bridget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kathryn<br />
Thanks for your comments. I suppose I wasn&#8217;t thinking so much of positive interventions having negative side-effects, though that&#8217;s an interesting thought. I was actually thinking of the possible risk of leaping in with a positive intervention when a clinical/medical intervention was more appropriate. Frisch for one is very clear on the dividing line between clinical/non-clinical work. </p>
<p>Luckily I don&#8217;t suffer from insomnia, but if I did, I think I&#8217;d try non-medical interventions first!</p>
<p>On a related  note, I&#8217;ve noticed several researchers writing about well-being (since the arrival of Pos Psych) talk about a decrease in depression/anxiety/other negative symptoms as if this were the same thing as an increase in well-being. This suggests that for the layperson, the distinction is actually not that important, even if it is everything to Positive Psychologists&#8230;.Your thoughts?</p>
<p>I also think Acceptance &amp; Commitment Therapy has a lot to offer on the subject of insomnia.</p>
<p>Bridget</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Britton</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13111</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bridget,

Interesting!  I wonder if research on positive interventions that appear to diminish depression might be a good place to start when looking for research on this subject?  

Your article made me curious about whether Sonja Lyubomirsky mentioned insomnia in her new book on happiness.  She does -- but all three mentions are in the chapter about depression, including a statement that disturbances in deep dream-related (REM) sleep is a symptom of depression.  

Rumination where thoughts go around and around in negative circles often contributes to insomnia -- and depression. So perhaps Sonja's activity 3, Avoiding Overthinking and Social Comparison, might be a good place to start for a friendly suggestion to someone who is really eager for relief.  As a non-clinician, I don't diagnose.  But it seems reasonable to suggest things that people can try.  No guarantees - but then, there aren't any guarantees even with medications that have undergone full double-blind clinical trials. 

It makes good sense to be wary of proposing positive interventions for interventions that have significant negative side effects.  But it is hard to imagine a downside to controlling rumination.

Your thoughts?
Kathryn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bridget,</p>
<p>Interesting!  I wonder if research on positive interventions that appear to diminish depression might be a good place to start when looking for research on this subject?  </p>
<p>Your article made me curious about whether Sonja Lyubomirsky mentioned insomnia in her new book on happiness.  She does &#8212; but all three mentions are in the chapter about depression, including a statement that disturbances in deep dream-related (REM) sleep is a symptom of depression.  </p>
<p>Rumination where thoughts go around and around in negative circles often contributes to insomnia &#8212; and depression. So perhaps Sonja&#8217;s activity 3, Avoiding Overthinking and Social Comparison, might be a good place to start for a friendly suggestion to someone who is really eager for relief.  As a non-clinician, I don&#8217;t diagnose.  But it seems reasonable to suggest things that people can try.  No guarantees - but then, there aren&#8217;t any guarantees even with medications that have undergone full double-blind clinical trials. </p>
<p>It makes good sense to be wary of proposing positive interventions for interventions that have significant negative side effects.  But it is hard to imagine a downside to controlling rumination.</p>
<p>Your thoughts?<br />
Kathryn</p>
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		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13088</link>
		<dc:creator>Pages tagged "positive"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bridget Grenville-Cleave</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13071</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Grenville-Cleave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeff
Good point about mindfulness; no doubt we'll see a flood of articles now that you've mentioned it.

The quote from Twain reminds me of this one from RD Laing:
“The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.”

Hmmmmmm.

Bridget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeff<br />
Good point about mindfulness; no doubt we&#8217;ll see a flood of articles now that you&#8217;ve mentioned it.</p>
<p>The quote from Twain reminds me of this one from RD Laing:<br />
“The range of what we think and do is limited by what we fail to notice. And because we fail to notice that we fail to notice, there is little we can do to change; until we notice how failing to notice shapes our thoughts and deeds.”</p>
<p>Hmmmmmm.</p>
<p>Bridget</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dustin</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/bridget-grenville-cleave/20080125597#comment-13064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bridget,

I wonder if, and I don't like this term, mindfulness could also be a positive intervention for insomnia? I am quite surprised that there are few to no articles on mindfulness here on the site.

I can understand skepticism, totally.  It is odd that people are skeptical...except about their own inner dialogue, the self-talk/imagery that causes so much strife.
Mark Twain: "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so."

Ain't that the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bridget,</p>
<p>I wonder if, and I don&#8217;t like this term, mindfulness could also be a positive intervention for insomnia? I am quite surprised that there are few to no articles on mindfulness here on the site.</p>
<p>I can understand skepticism, totally.  It is odd that people are skeptical&#8230;except about their own inner dialogue, the self-talk/imagery that causes so much strife.<br />
Mark Twain: &#8220;It ain&#8217;t what you don&#8217;t know that gets you into trouble. It&#8217;s what you know for sure that just ain&#8217;t so.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ain&#8217;t that the truth.</p>
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