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	<title>Comments on: Let&#8217;s Put Our Heads Together</title>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5790</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jordan 
I hope you are flourishing - and well, cheerful,enjoying life!  

Thank you for this thoughful and passionate piece.  I have not yet read the book but I shall, it clearly raises many profound questions.  For instance, how in detail are policies on minimal casulaties defined? for much of the world US war policy has held this as a key element since Vietnam.   

Leaving politics aside PP is as much about death and disability as about anything else. Both things happen in life. Either PP is relevant in all spheres or it must re-examine its bases, but I think its bases are strong - on the road to narrow victory.  

Kathryn as ever makes cogent, thoughtful and constructive points.  I know that many found the 'Future Selves' exercise problematic but I wonder if it does not have a place here? 

Best aye
Angus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jordan<br />
I hope you are flourishing - and well, cheerful,enjoying life!  </p>
<p>Thank you for this thoughful and passionate piece.  I have not yet read the book but I shall, it clearly raises many profound questions.  For instance, how in detail are policies on minimal casulaties defined? for much of the world US war policy has held this as a key element since Vietnam.   </p>
<p>Leaving politics aside PP is as much about death and disability as about anything else. Both things happen in life. Either PP is relevant in all spheres or it must re-examine its bases, but I think its bases are strong - on the road to narrow victory.  </p>
<p>Kathryn as ever makes cogent, thoughtful and constructive points.  I know that many found the &#8216;Future Selves&#8217; exercise problematic but I wonder if it does not have a place here? </p>
<p>Best aye<br />
Angus</p>
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		<title>By: " Now We Need it More Than Ever " on Positive Psychology News Daily</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5779</link>
		<dc:creator>" Now We Need it More Than Ever " on Positive Psychology News Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many Iraq veterans find themselves coming home with their worlds turned upside down, injured and forever changed.   As Jordan Silberman points out in his July 27th column, “Let’s Put Our Heads Together,” the positive psychology community is in a position to respond to the needs of injured U.S. veterans, and I agree.  I believe we can do this best if we also keep in mind both grieving families in the U.S. and the families of those in Afghanistan and Iraq who have lost loved ones to this war on terror.  A huge number of Iraqis have lost loved ones to the U.S. air war, which had cost an estimated 78,000 civilian lives in Iraq alone as of June 2006 (The Lancet, October 2006).  Keeping this bigger picture in mind, how might we respond to Jordan question of how to help U.S. veterans living with extreme levels of physical debilitation and emotional pain? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Many Iraq veterans find themselves coming home with their worlds turned upside down, injured and forever changed.   As Jordan Silberman points out in his July 27th column, “Let’s Put Our Heads Together,” the positive psychology community is in a position to respond to the needs of injured U.S. veterans, and I agree.  I believe we can do this best if we also keep in mind both grieving families in the U.S. and the families of those in Afghanistan and Iraq who have lost loved ones to this war on terror.  A huge number of Iraqis have lost loved ones to the U.S. air war, which had cost an estimated 78,000 civilian lives in Iraq alone as of June 2006 (The Lancet, October 2006).  Keeping this bigger picture in mind, how might we respond to Jordan question of how to help U.S. veterans living with extreme levels of physical debilitation and emotional pain? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Using Positive Psychology to Help Disabled Veterans &#171; Positive Psychology in Practice</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5762</link>
		<dc:creator>Using Positive Psychology to Help Disabled Veterans &#171; Positive Psychology in Practice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Posted by Kathryn on July 30th, 2007  I&#8217;ve been involved in a discussion on Positive Psychology News Daily in response to the challenge &#8220;How can we use Positive Psychology to improve the lives of the veterans living with never-before-seen levels of debilitation?&#8221; (Jordan Silberman, Let&#8217;s put our heads together and subsequent comments.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Posted by Kathryn on July 30th, 2007  I&#8217;ve been involved in a discussion on Positive Psychology News Daily in response to the challenge &#8220;How can we use Positive Psychology to improve the lives of the veterans living with never-before-seen levels of debilitation?&#8221; (Jordan Silberman, Let&#8217;s put our heads together and subsequent comments.) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Britton</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5757</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, danke fuer die Blume again.  Kathryn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, danke fuer die Blume again.  Kathryn</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Britton</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5756</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had another idea when thinking about the difference in experience between Vietnam War veterans and Iraq War veterans.  Many Vietnam War veterans were drafted and sent to Vietnam completely against their will.  Many came home feeling that the public -- especially their age peers -- looked down on them for their involvement in an unpopular war.  At least that is what I heard from my brother who spent part of the war sweeping mines from the Haiphong harbor.   

So today, the public is more open to thinking about veterans as heros of the hour -- but that tendency is tenuous, given that stories of misbehavior sell more newspapers than stories of quiet ongoing achievement.

So I'd ask veterans to tell stories about the best things they did, the hardest things they achieved, and the contributions, large and small, that they observed the American presence making to the Iraqi people.  There are many of us who hear only the downsides, never the upsides of our presence there.  What do we have to feel proud of?  Make it real for us.  Keep it real for yourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had another idea when thinking about the difference in experience between Vietnam War veterans and Iraq War veterans.  Many Vietnam War veterans were drafted and sent to Vietnam completely against their will.  Many came home feeling that the public &#8212; especially their age peers &#8212; looked down on them for their involvement in an unpopular war.  At least that is what I heard from my brother who spent part of the war sweeping mines from the Haiphong harbor.   </p>
<p>So today, the public is more open to thinking about veterans as heros of the hour &#8212; but that tendency is tenuous, given that stories of misbehavior sell more newspapers than stories of quiet ongoing achievement.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;d ask veterans to tell stories about the best things they did, the hardest things they achieved, and the contributions, large and small, that they observed the American presence making to the Iraqi people.  There are many of us who hear only the downsides, never the upsides of our presence there.  What do we have to feel proud of?  Make it real for us.  Keep it real for yourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dustin</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5720</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should send in Kathryn Britton to the rescue! Seriously, Kat, you ought to do some kind of disabled vet coaching, that'd be awesome, just awesome.  You've got all kinds of ideas and practical tools to help these people, if they are interested. GO KAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should send in Kathryn Britton to the rescue! Seriously, Kat, you ought to do some kind of disabled vet coaching, that&#8217;d be awesome, just awesome.  You&#8217;ve got all kinds of ideas and practical tools to help these people, if they are interested. GO KAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Kathryn Britton</title>
		<link>http://pos-psych.com/news/jordan-silberman/20070727354#comment-5712</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathryn Britton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,

First, I think we should shy away from the word "unprecedented" because it is neither true nor helpful.  Read The English Patient.  I'd say explore the horrors of earlier wars, but I don't think that's a good use of time! 

The reason it is not helpful is it cuts these veterans off from others who have found ways to live with debilitating and often degenerative illness.  Man is born to trouble as the sparks fly upwards, and that has ALWAYS been the case. But man can also be very ingenious about how to manage.
 
Let me illustrate with examples from my circle of friends.  One 25-year-old man with cerebral palsy has no functional hands or legs, is fed through a stomach tube, and can't talk - but laughs a lot.  Another 21-year-old man died this summer with Friedrich's Ataxia after losing his ability to walk and the strength in his hands by inches from the time he was about 10.  He was an accomplished graphic artist.  Another 23-year-old man has Muscular Dystrophy.  He made his first unsupervised friends in his late teens when he became able to play games over the Internet.  Up until then, his disability meant he was under constant adult supervision - not conducive to close relationships with peers.   

So some ideas from these friends: 

Companion dogs - for example, see http://www.caninecompanions.org/national/facts_faqs.html .  The young man with cerebral palsy has a companion dog who is his bridge to contact with people outside the family, as well as giving him big sloppy kisses that make him laugh. People come up to pet the dog and then stop to talk.  These same people would probably walk by with averted eyes otherwise.  Companion dogs are thoroughly trained and require a real commitment from the person and often family, but they can be a source of great comfort and company. 

Make virtual contacts with others.  Human relationships matter and can be hard for disabled veterans to manage in person.  My friend with Muscular Dystrophy uses virtual forms of human contact -- in his case gaming.  He very much appreciates the evolving technologies since things keep getting easier as the strength in his hands declines.  For those who aren't into games, there are Blogs, MySpace, and online discussions like this one.   Computer companies have invested a lot in "accessibility" enhancements for software.  For example, if a person can't type well, there are trainable voice readers that can 'take dictation.'  

Find a hero -- in a story or reality -- who has struggled with a similar disability and somehow won through to a strong life.  My friend with Friedrich's Ataxia used Steven Hawkings for his hero and received considerable comfort from remembering that someone so disabled could still contribute so splendidly.  That appealed to him because he had a similar kind of brain, so could picture himself making contributions in the same vein.  Physical exercise of whatever form is still possible can also be important.  So how about a hero such as the man who joined a fund-raising bike ride from Seattle to Portland in his un-motorized wheel chair, pushing all the way -- and kept up.  

So I guess I'm suggesting that we search among people - many of them quietly getting through difficult lives - who can provide examples of ways to find meaning in very circumscribed lives. 

Kathryn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,</p>
<p>First, I think we should shy away from the word &#8220;unprecedented&#8221; because it is neither true nor helpful.  Read The English Patient.  I&#8217;d say explore the horrors of earlier wars, but I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s a good use of time! </p>
<p>The reason it is not helpful is it cuts these veterans off from others who have found ways to live with debilitating and often degenerative illness.  Man is born to trouble as the sparks fly upwards, and that has ALWAYS been the case. But man can also be very ingenious about how to manage.</p>
<p>Let me illustrate with examples from my circle of friends.  One 25-year-old man with cerebral palsy has no functional hands or legs, is fed through a stomach tube, and can&#8217;t talk - but laughs a lot.  Another 21-year-old man died this summer with Friedrich&#8217;s Ataxia after losing his ability to walk and the strength in his hands by inches from the time he was about 10.  He was an accomplished graphic artist.  Another 23-year-old man has Muscular Dystrophy.  He made his first unsupervised friends in his late teens when he became able to play games over the Internet.  Up until then, his disability meant he was under constant adult supervision - not conducive to close relationships with peers.   </p>
<p>So some ideas from these friends: </p>
<p>Companion dogs - for example, see <a href="http://www.caninecompanions.org/national/facts_faqs.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.caninecompanions.org/national/facts_faqs.html</a> .  The young man with cerebral palsy has a companion dog who is his bridge to contact with people outside the family, as well as giving him big sloppy kisses that make him laugh. People come up to pet the dog and then stop to talk.  These same people would probably walk by with averted eyes otherwise.  Companion dogs are thoroughly trained and require a real commitment from the person and often family, but they can be a source of great comfort and company. </p>
<p>Make virtual contacts with others.  Human relationships matter and can be hard for disabled veterans to manage in person.  My friend with Muscular Dystrophy uses virtual forms of human contact &#8212; in his case gaming.  He very much appreciates the evolving technologies since things keep getting easier as the strength in his hands declines.  For those who aren&#8217;t into games, there are Blogs, MySpace, and online discussions like this one.   Computer companies have invested a lot in &#8220;accessibility&#8221; enhancements for software.  For example, if a person can&#8217;t type well, there are trainable voice readers that can &#8216;take dictation.&#8217;  </p>
<p>Find a hero &#8212; in a story or reality &#8212; who has struggled with a similar disability and somehow won through to a strong life.  My friend with Friedrich&#8217;s Ataxia used Steven Hawkings for his hero and received considerable comfort from remembering that someone so disabled could still contribute so splendidly.  That appealed to him because he had a similar kind of brain, so could picture himself making contributions in the same vein.  Physical exercise of whatever form is still possible can also be important.  So how about a hero such as the man who joined a fund-raising bike ride from Seattle to Portland in his un-motorized wheel chair, pushing all the way &#8212; and kept up.  </p>
<p>So I guess I&#8217;m suggesting that we search among people - many of them quietly getting through difficult lives - who can provide examples of ways to find meaning in very circumscribed lives. </p>
<p>Kathryn</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An open question: where can I find a book of positive psychology interventions for the lay readership?  Something like what Seligman (sorry Gloria for the namedrop ;) did with reflectivehappiness.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An open question: where can I find a book of positive psychology interventions for the lay readership?  Something like what Seligman (sorry Gloria for the namedrop <img src='http://pos-psych.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> did with reflectivehappiness.com?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Dustin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Dustin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At core the ways to help the disabled vets is a resilience issue and one of morale.

If you can't heal the injuries so that the pain is diminished, I'd advocate some type of tried and true cognitive therapy for pain management with antidepressant drugs combo. I've heard that Interpersonal therapy is a good one with those dealing with grief and loneliness problems.

Again, I find value in Michael Frisch's CASIO approach...yeah it may seem like a drop in the bucket, but really ever since I've heard of CASIO I use it every day and I think there is something there even for disabled vets, since they are people first and foremost.

Yet there should be a lobbyist group advocating for the disabled Vet's mental health...that's a systemic improvement that would really make a difference.  Maybe this organization could fund posipsych coaches to go to the vets in the hospitals and provide morale boosting, something like Patch Adams for the veterans.  There'd be plenty of work for our awesome pp coaches. 

I know the comments section isn't a place for partisan politics, but ultimately the veteran issue is a political one that needs in part, a political solution to create or improve the existing support organizations to involve more PP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At core the ways to help the disabled vets is a resilience issue and one of morale.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t heal the injuries so that the pain is diminished, I&#8217;d advocate some type of tried and true cognitive therapy for pain management with antidepressant drugs combo. I&#8217;ve heard that Interpersonal therapy is a good one with those dealing with grief and loneliness problems.</p>
<p>Again, I find value in Michael Frisch&#8217;s CASIO approach&#8230;yeah it may seem like a drop in the bucket, but really ever since I&#8217;ve heard of CASIO I use it every day and I think there is something there even for disabled vets, since they are people first and foremost.</p>
<p>Yet there should be a lobbyist group advocating for the disabled Vet&#8217;s mental health&#8230;that&#8217;s a systemic improvement that would really make a difference.  Maybe this organization could fund posipsych coaches to go to the vets in the hospitals and provide morale boosting, something like Patch Adams for the veterans.  There&#8217;d be plenty of work for our awesome pp coaches. </p>
<p>I know the comments section isn&#8217;t a place for partisan politics, but ultimately the veteran issue is a political one that needs in part, a political solution to create or improve the existing support organizations to involve more PP.</p>
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